Love has to come out, anyhow. However, when it spills out to wife and wife only, it's with intensity. And this becomes the cause of a strong familial bond.
Compare this to non-Islamic societies, where men have direct or indirect illegal sexual experiences through pornography or girlfriends. These men when marry, already have a wide experience. Hence the comparison of wife's sexuality with that of a perfect pornstar or girlfriend is inevitable, thereby creating a loss of interest in men (as the wife cannot have a sexuality comparable to different hand-picked and cosmetically perfected porn stars).
Islam by blocking the pre-marital, extra-marital and pornographic sex, snatches away the destructive exposure to illegal sex, thereby leaving only wife (and no other girl) to imagination. This causes love to intensify amongst married couple, as they have no choice but to retire in each other.
Right opposite has been done by secular societies by creating a mixed-gender culture. The husband becomes paranoid of an office going wife. And the wife, that of husband. Instead of families being stable it is rocked by paranoia, jealousy and fear, that the other half might get charmed by an external male/female.
In such a society jobs-for-female is supported by male feminists not because they are concerned about women's welfare, but because it makes their female-hunting easy. Better, they have huge access to emotionally vulnerable females, say to the one who had a fight with her husband last night. The prophets of "female liberation" are hence, not messiah but sexual predators.
Certainly their are also takers of "female liberation" amongst female feminists, but then, who said there are no loose females! They do so to have access to various penises.
I admit that this might sound like a sweeping generalisation. That there might be females who are rigteous even in these free mixing societies, however they are so by self-discipline. But what about loose women? Hence, the Islamically segregated societies.
We need Islam oriented female liberation. That is create gender-segregated institutions as this will give rise to more female jobs (because female institutions will hire only females). Like a exclusive female beach, will give rise to vacancy for female life guards, while letting them have as much fun as the males.
Hence to create a perfect society, the country has to be Islamicised.
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When you ask someone not to do something, it only piques their interest. So a person who has never watched porn would be latently excited about it much more than a person who has seen it and knows that it is not a big deal.
Are they better than us?
It chose a side, a mode of thought ,but is it right one?
So, in a segregated scoiety who feels insecure? Females? :)
and why just islam could bring this kind of society, similar doctrines could be seen in every other religion, and not just in islam, so this can't be taken as an argument for islamisation of country or world at the cost of personal and civil liberty... and moreover it would just cause further gender inequality and women disempowerment
And the insecurity arises from what?
What kind of insecurity could a women have, when all around her are just women? :)
Listening to ur argument..really..seriously.
Then why are rapes more in mixed societies like India than in segregated ones like Saudi Arabia? :)
Because Islam has this provision. Keeping wives means giving them equal rights in wealth and respect in society, as compared to having clandestine extra-marital relationships, wherein women have no 'rights', also if discovered they will be certified 'easy'.
Islam makes every provision to give respect to women. :)
Why doesn't then first wife divorce as soon as she finds second one coming in? Or why does second agree to marry when she knows that man already has a wife?
So you see, Islam is very transparent. :)
And fear is terrible when all odds in favour of a polygamous male
That's YOUR choice. Others are wise. :P
What about extra-marital? Would you do it? :)
First of all why in the world would I make a choice for my sister? A self respecting women would never be a mistress or a second wife unless under some exploitative circumstances.
This is one of the reasons I like Islam. It has rooted out such evils way back. It's time for us Indians to learn Islam :)
And who will decide what is self-respect? People who advocate mini-skirt? :P
I personally hate the institution of Khap panchayat, so I would refrain from saying anything about Haryana. It is good for everyone to learn about about all religions as long as religion acts like a guideline and not a book of law.
P.S. I know with what the society has instilled in you, you are possibly never going to come out of this regressive mindset you have. :)
Why? Because religion as a law prevents you to pursue your vested interests? For instance to have pre-marital sex?:)
If nudity is progressive, you can never beat animals. By the way, is imitating cave-men, progressive or regressive? :P
I think that it is upto the Individual, for the correct interpretation of the teachings in Geeta,The Holy Bible or Quran.The so called religious leaders are just getting the benifit of ignorance of the common people.
Agree very much, with this part. :)
Actually yes, for protecting her, or else (though I pray her dignity remains intact.) she migh show up in some MMS. Remember DPS? :)
Did I mention Afghanistan. Looks like we have another media zombie here. :)
Privileges like? Rapes? Female fetocide? Dowry? Adultery? Alcoholism? Multi-crore corruption? Pornography? Female commodification?
This is not privilege, this is a dancing crap. :)
Then why do women marry knowing that the man is already married? :)
There are rights for women to divorce in Islam. She can add clauses in 'nikahnama' citing which, later she can invoke divorce. :)
I agree with this. However would like to add that mere women's accusation should not be considered as proof. And if she cannot prove that she was raped, she too should be flogged for defaming the man. :)
Not the problem..it's the solution. Also, Islamic fundamnetalists exist because Islam has fundamentals.
It's not some mumbo-jumbo where you either worship anything that moves or nothing. :)
@Then why do women marry knowing that the man is already married?
they get married because they are being forced to do so by their own family menbers.The ground reality is that.If they have economic independence i don't think they are going to marry a married man.
Court is not soap. It wants evidence and won't give up on the drama of 'Abla naari'. Who knows if she is a hooker, and shouted rape jusr because she didn't get paid enough? :)
Or that the culture makes this practice..normal and It's WE who make value judgement, right? :)
I don't agree that polygamy is a malpractise in the first place. Also why should we ASSUME that the being second wife or being in a burqa is suffering? WHY?
Afterall, in europe too muslims wear hijab and christians practise polygamy. :)
just interview few hundred such women..you 'll know.
You have to give a flight to your imagination in grasping the fact, that in Islam being second wife in no way makes you 'second', because the rights you get are 'equal' to the first. :)
You might be having such idealistic view of polygamy but such views are lacking in the the majority of the people and nations.
@SuchWriters, Want to argue? Go to forums and let WB stay clean of all religion discrimination shit.
Just look at the count of comments, man. WTF. Argue - argue - argue is all such posts can lead to. FYI. Forums come with no limitation on number of comments.
I am not trying to get into this discussion however, since you felt I was baby crying so you left me no choice other than let me explain that you confused my abstraction with tears. Thanks.
Discrimination is the way to justice. Can an alcoholic or rapist or a murderer be the same as teetoteller, or the person who lowers his gaze, or the one who abstains from violence except for self-defence? No. They are "different". The "discrimination" between a good and bad will always exist.
Similarly can a person who cheats his wife or who has pre-marital sex be thee same who is faithful to his wife or the one who abstains from pre-marital sex? No.
The point is who gives us this distinction between good and bad? Religion. All religion? No. Only Islam.
Others have us morally confused. You see Radha was NOT the wife of Krishna, and the fact is celebrated!! What can you expect of such people? Would they have any moral compass? :)
And from now on, whenever I will hear the word 'Peace', I'll surely die laughing of. LMFAO right now :D
U think solitary confinement of genders in today's age is anybody's idea of a sensible society trying to achive the limits of human potential? what kind of a god would it be who would first create 2 genders and then would want to seperate beahces for them..a really funny god i must say dude..i mean forget it and dont bother creating the genders and beaches in teh first place.
Now dont get me wring. I am all in for chastity and commitment. I am even a believer in one marriage for 1 life. Divorce is unfortunate and unfaithfulness is plain old ugly and stupid i guess. u compared with beasts. right. but then caging them into separate compartments is again a behavior meted out to beasts. you know what human beings are capable of? we are capable of discretion and even vairagya. what makes you think that people are not capable of withholding from promiscuous behavior? i think the best ones in society would achieve that anyway either in Saudi or in the expressive America.And thenot so capable ones would flounder intheir own ways in both the places....i am all against the demeaning of females to posters and all but really tht doe snot mean u need to hide them as if they were some mistake of creation. we are capable of the feats of the buddha who cared for amrapali when she was sick. or the sage who carried a woman across a river in his hands and dint even realize any kind of attraction for her. for him she was just another soul hiding inside the temporary sheath of skeleton.
and first of all dude, wht makes us think that women are properties of men afterall.....women are very difficult creatures, even viscious if you may agreed, but then what makes you think that you could win the love of them by confining them inside rooms? only the dull-wit women maybe could love such a person.
so once it was one marriage, it can be replaced by divorce and marriage now. what remains true is that unfaithfulness is still ungodly as its tantamount to hurting a being's feelings. but again even christ says there is salvation through confession. divorce maybe harsh on children but should be no big deal in god's eyes i guess as long as ppl are able to pull it of..if u read the tenets of manu samhita u would think taliban is child's play as the punishments meted out were so severe. btu as times changed, the sages made those laws l easy.
I think love reigns supreme but is only very difficult to survive. meerabai was married but fell in love with god's image and nobody condescended her as she was inebriated with love, true love..m not saying the pre-marital thing seen today is justified as mostly its gonna be hormones and not love. but its mostly hormones from men's side more. But u and me are no one really to judge if someone is truly in love, rare as it maybe. but average people like u and me, we need social rules and i think divorce and remarriage is the answer in the day and age.
my dear friend, your beloved god's creation women are far more difficult than you think. I get the image of the naive sheikh with 4 wives who gets his ends but fails to have a soft corner in any one of their hearts. you call that a satisfying conjugal end for him? an average man who has 4 wives today based on only riches and no charm? i think he is totally deprived of any affections from the womenfolk. or maybe some dumb-wit women with no social standing would like him for the gold he showers..which is fine by me absolutely..but i guess the child here may turn out to be a total piece of work..rich and naive dad and dumb mom..hehe
I slam is a religion of peace which brought order in the messy arabian world and advanced the society there. it exalted the status of women in those lands i am sure. but i am sure the holy book has many subtle messages which are lost upon the prapogandist preachers. The prophet is long gone dude and has left the book for the upliftment of anyone who desires. i trust the book, not you. and being the message of god, it would be too subtle for u to master and preach it alright. so take it easy.
Not solitary confinement, I said "segeregation". Segregation means avoiding free "mixing" of sexes.
It is because of this free mixing that we hear instances like boob-pressing in Ganesh Chaturthi's crowd. Recently TOI published this snap of a man grabbing the breasts of a women in Ganesh chaturthi's procession.
And why pretend, afterall realising the same wisdom Delhi Metro has different compartment for women, no?! :)
Did yo know hinduism also allows polygamy? A bill named Hindu Code Bill was passed soon after independence in 1952 that made polygamy a crime and gave alimony rights to women with equal share in property. anyhow,this bill wasn't passed for muslims due to sensitive situation at that time.
so if we are saying secular societies are supporting the act of premarital affairs and mulim nations are not, whom are we pleasing by making such statements? Polygamy is supported in India too!
Any Muslim can maintain any number of wives.And it isn't against the law for him. But for Hindu it is.(thank god).
I consider poligamy akin to slavery. Not atleast in secular society, woman has a choice of choosing more than 1 husband by having a divorce. Wouldn't it be a subject of taboo in muslim nations with relaxed polygamy laws?
Similarly with huge wars like world wars or civil wars like the one in Syria, what about widows of the soldiers? If nobody marries them, they will turn into public properties. Hence, polygamy is a very practical solution. :)
Interestingly though Islam offers it as an option, it discourages it. Quran clearly says, it is "better" to marry one. :)
Any number? Please study Islam properly.
Only four are allowed. :)
Islam restores the dignity of a women. Gives her "back" the family.
@SS, I sincerely request you to take this down please.
till the time SS comes up with a better plan. else is this a self-serving dictatorial form or what? bade baat karrahe hain aur ye halla kar rahe hain just to gain some attention..get a life my dear friend and be polite and sobre on such a decent forum alrite..
I just love your posts. :) Really.