Authentic rape: A minority. Islam as the solution.

I wonder whats the hype about Righteous v/s slu* , after-all in eyes of Allah the provision of marriage is as good as a contract which can be dissolved upon payment of mutually agreed upon sum. Nowhere its considered as an union of two souls. If the dissolution is just a matter of money , rights and life style why to associate notions of purity,Righteousness and holiness ?
If someone marries 30 people in a year and divorces them mutually would he/she still be righteous as she/he abides by the contract?
Incidentally , there is another short term contract which goes by name of prostitutio* , Agree on an amount and part ways afterwards, fair and square, does it make it holy too ?
As long as no-one is being harmed , its their body , let them do what they want to do with it , if you don't like it then don't do it, full stop.
Not liking something doesn't give anyone a right to look down at anyone else , as long as its not harming you physically, mentally , emotionally or contractually.

Nice point about Rape though , keep writing.

Agree with ETERNALME ....

a question to the author about the situation in Iraq ... a guess you know the full form of ISIS ... and the rape and mass massacre ... and selling of girls in 10 dollars as sex slave? ... you still want to talk about rape? and that too keeping Islam in context??

I am not against any religion but am just saying a religion is not good or bad its the mindset and the act!! ...

Try out this link:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2729130/They-started-people-holes-people-alive-Yazidi-survivors-horror-story-reveals-ISIS-threw-screaming-women-children-mass-graves.html

I am very sure the author will try to justify the act of ISIS in Iraq ... well can't do much for that ...

I wish you could use the freedom to think logically as much as you use the freedom of expression!!

ISIS may do things "in the name" of Islam, but ISIS is not Islam. Quran is Islam. Also, this article is not about ISIS.

//after-all in eyes of Allah the provision of marriage is as good as a contract which can be dissolved upon payment of mutually agreed upon sum. Nowhere its considered as an union of two souls.//

The point is, marriage is a social contract and prostitution, a secret act. Women in marriage can fix her bridal money, prostitutes/girlfriends "usually" end up in getting exploited. See the difference?

Wait! They are still thinking ISIS are Muslims? -_-

Don't be ignorant folks... first learn then talk... Thats the problem many people are misled nowadays... they just accept what is put in front of them by the media.. they don't attempt to go deeper in to the matter....

@Mukhtar: Dude I don't think they are Muslims, I know that. But that is not my point anyway.

ISIS stands for Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. For in depth knowledge read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant and the references. Honestly speaking they seem to be against Islam too, but yes this is what they are.

@Author: In very simple words, your solution to the problem of rape is discard it as a problem itself.

This article is not about ISIS but its about Islam. And ISIS is an Islamic fanatic group has its root in "Jihad", something to do with Islam and Quran.

My point is ( in context of ISIS ) being of any religion does not ensure you are a good person. Being sensitive towards pain of others does. Respecting others does. Tolerance does. But Islam does not recognize rape as anything, rendering insensitivity for the rape victims. That is my point.

Okay so premarital sex means you're of bad character? Or people who practice such acts are easy? There is a difference between guys who promise to marry only for exploiting girls physically and the same is true for girls too. But thats different. And btw, that too isn't forceful. He may have convinced his partner but the act wasn't forceful. But thats not the concern. So couples who divorce each other have basically raped each other 1000s of times, isn't it? If going by your logic.

One more thing, not everything is about religion. Stop linking such issues with your religion. Not to forget freedom for men to marry 4 times while the same isn't true for women in your religion.

//And ISIS is an Islamic fanatic group//

It claims to be "Islamic", that doesn't tell us anything about Islam itself. If a buddhist commits a murder, that doesn't mean buddhism teaches to kill people.

And please don't post childish arguments here, because replying to them seems like I'm teaching to school kids.

//And btw, that too isn't forceful.//

Then why do girls file such cases under "rape"?

@Vodka...//So couples who divorce each other have basically raped each other 1000s of times, isn't it?//

The wife has a right in husband's property. However, the girlfriend/slut/hooker's seperation ends up in exploitation and ignominy. See the difference? :)

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The point is, marriage is a social contract and prostitution, a secret act. Women in marriage can fix her bridal money, prostitutes/girlfriends "usually" end up in getting exploited. See the difference?
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Statistically its women in marriages who get exploited more on all level . Although the example was in reference to contract in general and in no circumstance should be taken as one equating the two type of contracts.

Visiting faculty :- "But Islam does not recognize rape as anything, rendering insensitivity for the rape victims. That is my point."

Quoting from wiki - "In Islamic law (Sharia), Ma malakat aymanukum is the term for slaves or captives of war. According to Muslim theologians, it is lawful for male masters to have sexual relations with female captives and slaves,[49][50] regardless of whether or not the slave woman gave her consent.[51] The purchase of female slaves for sex was lawful from the perspective of Islamic law, and this was the most common motive for the purchase of slaves throughout Islamic history.[52]"

Actually the provision of considering the women as war booty does takes care of legalization of rape. One can have sex with slave women if one possess her rightfully, the instructions go in much details about the rights of children born out of such unions too.

God mercifully takes away the "Feel raped / Exploited" faculty of the slave women and they become more than willing to accommodate the desires and wishes of their masters.

More "Righteous virtues" around slavery, rape can be found here http://islamqa.info/en/10382

//Statistically its women in marriages who get exploited more on all level//

That's because statistics for secret relationships is non-existent. What will a girlfriend/prostitute gain by reporting? Another round of exploitation at the hands of policeman, getting exposed, difficulty in marriage, seperation...and that too without any alimony?

You have to realize one thing, Islam offers best solution. You know the meaning of "best"? That you cannot improvise on it. That you can't give anything "better" than it.

War between non-Islamic armies,

1. Would leave women on their own (this being least cruel). What would they do on their own? Look towards prostitution?

2. Killed women.

3. Put them in prison. That is, no family, no society, plus being deprived of sexual needs.

By any critical angle, inclusion of women as slaves (brought in as war booty), in Muslim societies/families, was better than the treatment meted out to them by non-Islamic armies.

Eternalme gave selective information that suited his prejudice. For "complete" information, I'm posting following two links. The BBC one is more authentic as well as exhaustive as compared to wiki.

1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/slavery_1.shtml
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_slavery

//1. Would leave women on their own (this being least cruel). What would they do on their own? Look towards prostitution?//

Non combatants were not killed during war, fine, what about slaughtering Banu Quarza ? They had already surrendered ? where the "Mercy" icon was resting ? Mercy doesn't calls for systematic slaughtering of those who had surrendered and were not fighting. First systematically slaughter their men, then show mercy on the women and children who are left behind, that is the best approach? Quite impressive! You mean to imply that God doesn't understand that leaving a family "as is" is best, once the war has ended and the other party has surrendered?
They could take away the arms, seal the borders and make procuring and manufacturing arms illegal, that is best , not killing every healthy adult male. That is acting out of fear and vengeance, not out of good of all.
Killers don't think about wellbeing of anyone except their own, plenty women means plenty of sexual objects, children are easily controlled slave for domestic and household work. who wants to work when you can get a slave, its wonderful how the best is always best for the aggressors and killers.


//2. Killed women.//

Yes women were killed too, who fought back for their chastity and pride, where you are living my friend? come down from that holy pedestal and read your books a bit more.

3. Put them in prison. That is, no family, no society, plus being deprived of sexual needs.

Prison ? They didn't have enough space to keep camels in one place, let alone arrange for prison for the war captives, if they were so good hearted they won't go to the extremes of killing men in first place. I don't see any man being jailed for one simple reason, there was no mercy in heart , they always wanted blood shed, always instigated people to smite at the necks of infidels, instill fear in their hearts by the show of wrath, no wonder one person was beheaded yesterday, they are not doing anything new, they are reliving the history. The flag beares of peace were the ones going to places to fight, convert or be beheaded, some Best solutions.



//Eternalme gave selective information that suited his prejudice. //

Prejudice ? About what ? calling a spade a spade ? Then so be it.
At-least the prejudiced mind took time to go through the HOLY book 3 times. first to learn the holy tidings of the God, second time to overcome the shock of the revelations and third time to find why god has to ever so often correct the "best" message.
How come the temporary situations needed to be aided by a sura to be put in the book for whole of the humanity? Honestly, It doesn't matter to the whole world if prophet's wives didn't listen to him and he had to go on a fast to make them understand his point until god intervened and a sura appeared addressing his wives.
Didn't make sense why god was taking that much personal interest in one of his own creations by promptly sending out a sura to help him sort his personal life. Omnipotent god was fully focused one person during those days, life didn't exist and mattered anywhere else for god.
That is prejudice , I am just following the example set out by God by reminding others what other holy tidings god so mercifully sent for betterment of the whole world in best way.

//The BBC one is more authentic as well as exhaustive as compared to wiki.//
Neither BBC nor Wiki write the articles, its the contributing authors like you or me. Will post few links from BBC to make your best a little better when I have some time next.

//Non combatants were not killed during war, fine, what about slaughtering Banu Quarza ? They had already surrendered ? //

Please don't be dishonest while posting here. The wiki article says: The Banu Qurayza were overtaken and most of the men, APART FROM THOSE WHO SURRENDERED (many of whom converted to Islam), were beheaded.

See I caught you lying! :)

Now, whatever you say hereon, will be viewed with suspicion.

//First systematically slaughter their men, then show mercy on the women and children who are left behind, that is the best approach?//

Didn't you read WHY were they slaughtered? They violated the treaty and joined the enemy in fight. They deserved death.

To this day, sedition is punishable by death.

And yes ONE woman died among 900 men! Why this exceptionally low number? Because this is Islam. And the battle was fought by Prophet himself.

Only Islam , by law, decrees to pay blood money in exchange of killed innocents or to free a slave.

//Killers don't think about wellbeing of anyone except their own, plenty women means plenty of sexual objects, children are easily controlled slave for domestic and household work. //

Apart from being dishonest you are also lazy. Please read the link I gave you. The treatments of slave was so unprecedented, that the slave that Prophet owned (Zaid), refused to go with his father and opted to stay with the Prophet, even when Muhammad (PBUH) refused any money in exchange!

Nopes sir you didn't catch me lying, About Banu quarza you might like to consult your own books and not wiki which can be edited by anyone , there are plenty people (may peace be upon them) rewriting the history of peaceful crusades.
Banu quarza didn't even fight in first place, They were besieged for 25 days until they surrendered and were tried for their (supposed) breach. Also note that these were the same people who were helping army of Prophet with tools , arms and provisions to defend themselves from meccans during the war of the trenches merely 26 days back.
Banu qurayza were neutral to both parties, and while the meccans were retreating B.Q. negotiated peace settlement with meccans as meccans saw the act of helping Prophets armies as hostile.
This simple act of negotiating one's peace with meccan was taken as violation of peace treaty by gabriel who somehow choose to ride a horse and gave a visit to prophet while the later was washing clothes ,and ordered him to attack BQ.
They never fought prophets army, they surrendered after the seize of their fort, of the two muslims killed in the seize one was killed by a hysterical woman who threw grinding stone over him. B.Q. lost 600-800 men all of whom were beheaded ceremoniously around the trenches dug for the sole purpose.
Further the women captives were sold for exchange of horses and supplies, so much for "taking care" of the women who who were orphaned and widowed after the "Holy" no war.

Also it is always easy to spew hateful lies. I gave you the link, and here's an excerpt.

In his lifetime the Prophet introduced the following rules about slavery:

1. Stated that freeing slaves was the act that God found most acceptable
2. Zakat (charity - the third Pillar of Islam) was often used by the state to free slaves
3. Stated that freeing a slave was the appropriate way to gain forgiveness for certain wrongs
4. Ordered that those who committed certain wrongs should be penalised by having to free their slaves
5. Stated that slaves should be allowed to buy their freedom, and if necessary should be given the opportunity to earn money, or be lent money by the state, in order to do so
7. Allowed slaves to be freed in certain circumstances
8. Stated that slaves' contracts should be interpreted in favour of the slaves
9. Stated that the duty of kindness towards slaves was the same of that towards family, neighbours and others
10. Stated that when a slave owner had a child with a female slave, the child should be freed and could inherit from their father like any other child (as in the case of Ibrahim)

if its a good deed to free a slave and if its zakat , why the hell take a slave ? the iq department was always at rest or what ?

//About Banu quarza you might like to consult your own books and not wiki which can be edited by anyone//

You didn't think that while giving negative information? Now when I caught you lying, the same source becomes unreliable?

To add to your frustration, 2/3 rd of new converts are women! :)

//if its a good deed to free a slave and if its zakat , why the hell take a slave ? the iq department was always at rest or what ?//

To reform them. To keep them surrounded by Islam. To bring them to truth. That's why they were a part of family. Apply some brain.

Asking question without applying brain, reminds me of troublesome kids who "asked" only to disturb the class, not realising the loss was their own. :)

Can you explain this?
// The real rapes are only that of children and old feeble women. Rest all is a prostitute’s anger.//

So what happened two years back in the infamous Delhi rape incident was the girl's intention? Did she want to get raped? Was it her lust?

And mind you, not every girl is a prostitute as per what is your thinking. Get that right through your head.

//To reform them. To keep them surrounded by Islam. To bring them to truth. That's why they were a part of family. Apply some brain.//

Thats new !! kill parents, husbands and then reform orphans and widows by trading them for horses, food , supplies or better still turn them into slaves and concubines...
I've read most major religious scriptures and guess what , after reading a certain book there is one less true religion in my knowledge...
About Brain - Did you choose your faith by free will ? the good news is if you had a chance to choose, you would never do it..
The proof is that you people sing about how many new converts are there, that means deep down you get validation by these numbers as a latent thoughts -if others are converting it must be good..

Poor you , you never had a choice to choose or debate your faith, and now with that cabbage in place of brain you don't stand a chance at spiritual and intellectual enlightenment ever....

Keep counting the sheep, IQ department is permanently on leave since the the first person believed in recursive logic as fact..

Robin williams (pbuh) came to to me yesterday, he said hey Upheaval I am newly appointed angel in the ministry of God the almighty due to all the virtues and good deeds I executed while on earth, and I am ordered to convey the message of the One, you are henceforth appointed as official spokes person of the One. Go spread the holy word..

Keep writing , the truth will set you free ,for which you are not ready nor will be ever. How I know this ? Because Robin Williams (pbuh) told me so, who is newly appointed angel. If you don't believe me you are infidel and hell's fire will be for you for infinity..

Peace .. :).. Pun intended .. Signing out..

//So what happened two years back in the infamous Delhi rape incident was the girl's intention? Did she want to get raped?//

In that case, the rape seemed to be genuine. However, the number of such gang rapes is very less.

Few days back there was a news that a girl was "gang raped" at her boyfriend's apartment. I ask what was she doing at his apartment? I'm NOT defending the boy. I'm alleging BOTH. The boy for colluding with his friends to take advantage of his girlfriend. And the girl for being a slut.

In all such "gang rapes", there's no victim. If after bribing, the briber exposes the taker, still, BOTH will be punished. Similarly after having consensual illegal sex, BOTH have to be punished.

What can the law do, if you keep hanging a 500 Rs note out of your pocket in a crowded bus, and then whine about who stole it? Similarly girls travelling along men, and in short dress whining about their stares is simply stupid.

Law is right in ignoring stupid people.

// kill parents, husbands and then reform orphans..//

Murderers, rapists and traitors might have families too, but we still hang/jail them, don't we? The difference is, in India wives have to jump in fire, while in Islamic state they are taken care of. :)

//The difference is, in India wives have to jump in fire, while in Islamic state they are taken care of. :)//

Yes , jump in fire rather to be saved by the rapists, child molesters, camel lovers. That's called choosing pride over a life of misery, it comes from an upbringing which instills values so high that a lowly life is not acceptable at any rate. Those values and pride you would have hard time to understand due to your beliefs.
Making love to someone doesn't make anyone slut , law of this land permits consenting adults to mate if there is no law being broken.
Kindly accommodate the law of the land in your expressions.

//That's called choosing pride over a life of misery, it comes from an upbringing which instills values so high that a lowly life is not acceptable at any rate.//

Why did then Govt. of India banned the "pride of Sati"? Even if Sati didn't happen, the child widows were sent to Vrindavan Ashram, for the pleasure of Brahmins!

Classic case of "Aagey kuaan, peechey khaai"

//Yes , jump in fire rather to be saved by the rapists, child molesters, camel lovers//

Another lie. But second time, it's no surprise. Why are you such a habitual liar? You are scared of something?

No. Jump in fire because of social pressure. To honor the false pride of her husband.

So, according to Joseph, when an unfortunate incident of Rape occurs, the forensic dept and police are to first classify the rape as authentic or not!! Not based on medical examination but based on a few criteria laid down in the Quran. So, with a Quran in hand when they have verified that the girl is an authentic victim, i.e. she is minor or she doesn't have a boyfriend, or she not even have friends in her
group who are boys, or she never visits any boy's house(in which cases she'd be a slut) only then they declare it rape! Oh welcome to the Parallel world of Islam! Unbelievable!!

So, what now! I guess should recruit a special ministry for classifying easy boys and easy girls and the righteous boys and righteous girls...Inter-character marriages should be prohibited then...Rofl

So visiting a friend's or even a boyfriend's place makes a girl a slut?
And what's wrong with girls going out with boys or wearing whatever they feel like?

God bless the women in your house given your narrow thinking.

@Vodka //So visiting a friend's or even a boyfriend's place makes a girl a slut? //

Getting "raped" at boyfriend's place surely makes her a slut. Because in such cases boyfriend usually sets the ground. How? With this plan which he makes with his friends: "When-I'm-making-out-with-her, you-just-drop-in, and-then-we-will-blackmail-her-and-have-sex-with-her." :)

In addition to being rape, it is also a punishment for her slut hood. :)

@ Vodka //So visiting a friend's or even a boyfriend's place makes a girl a slut? //

What would make your mother a slut? Just talking with your neighbor? Holding his hand? Sitting on his lap? Smooching him? Getting actually penetrated by him?

At what stage would you call her a slut? Where would you draw the line?

Islam has a clear principle, whatever leads to bad, is bad. Hence Islam prohibits the free mixing of sexes and encourages early marriage.

//What would make your mother a slut? Just talking with your neighbor? Holding his hand? Sitting on his lap? Smooching him? Getting actually penetrated by him?//

Refrain from getting personal , your writing exposes a great deal about how you view women in general.
There are good and bad people in both gender , if you have had sour experiences with fairer gender , doesn't mean you look down at all of them.
When you get the urge to blurt the slu* word please try and visualize females in your home ,that would act as deterrent.
No lie in here as far as I know, you can still call me a liar if it gives you an opportunity to look away from the truth of your soul , that is , if you have any left.
God bless you my friend..

You know what makes you an asshole? Giving such bullshit explanations and fucking logic with your narrow mindset.
What makes you a retard? Commenting on people's personal relationships.
And you know why I pity people like you? Because you have no balls to do anything or bring out any change and that's why you're after giving such bullshit explanations.

I really have respect for all the religions including Islam. But people like you are the ones who instil such feelings in people.
Yeah and you know since every girl is a slut and whore, then my friend so is your mother ans so is your sister. So will be your fucking wife if and ever because given the crap that comes out of your pathetic mouth no girl should ever be with you.
Fucking bastard, son of a slut!
So you can fuck off with this fucking logic of yours.

And you know what, take up your fucking islam and shove it up your stinking ass!

And I hope your mother gets caught giving a lap dance to your fucking neighbor and hope you find out that your fucking father isn't your father which renders you a bastard, which you already are.
Say one more thing about me or my personal relationships, and then see what kind of bullshit comes out of my mouth!!!
I just hope your sister doesn't turn out to be a slut because that would be kinda ironic, no?

Anyway, may your god bless your family because you surely are going to hell!!!

Fucking motherfucker!!!!!!

And with your comment you just showed what kind of religion you're preaching because id thats what Islam teaches you then you're fucking mistaken to go in the wrong direction.
Go get fucked by a gay, in the ass.
And now imagine your mother talking to your neighbor, holding his hand, smooching him, giving him a hand and blowing him. And also imagine her getting tucked in the ass.

Thank you, fuck off now.

One more comment on me and you'll have it from me.

Getting fucked*

How dare you talk like I mean how dare you comment on dignity of a mother you bloddy circumcised ass hole you don't dare talk like that. Not even in your dream know your fucking limits and don't tell us Mr. Islam from kind of red light area you come from. You don't know shit about your islam if don't know how to respect women. And I won't be shocked if you think the same way about your mother and sister.
Loser !

Where are you ?
Come say something come on
I think he is gone to look for his mother just a tip also look for your sister and don't just look at your neighbor's but in the entire area .
Because if in your area everyone share same mindset then your mom and sis must be very famous

I feel bad for every girl related to you in any manner. I wonder if you have a mother or sister.

You better apologise and delete that cheap comment of yours

nice!

Joseph I remember telling you before also...this a place for sharing creativity pure unadulterated. Don't try and start up a business of marketing Islam here and contaminating this place...

My intention was not to get personal, but only to make you "believe" so, which you did. Why? To expose the hypocrisy that people have problems with their mothers doing things "with consent". They have problems with their mothers holding hands of the neighbor, which "might" suggest that she's involved sexually.

However, they have no problem with girls/boys doing same before marriage, who would become life partners of somebody righteous.

@Upheaval...//There are good and bad people in both gender...//

Exactly my point. Islam too, gives equal punishment to both easy girls and easy boys.

I have cited more examples of girls because it is them who are getting an undue advantage, in cases where BOTH enjoyed, but only ONE is getting punished. Hence, I'm giving more examples of girls (rather than boys).

However, I agree that promiscuous people in both genders should be punished publicly and equally and should be married only among themselves. Just like you don't marry an HIV to a healthy person, morally diseased shouldn't be married to morally healthy people. :)

@INDIANMESSIAH.. //Don't try and start up a business of marketing Islam here and contaminating this place//

This is no business, because I'm not expecting any profit. I'm just putting forth a truth you are finding hard to digest. :)

@Bum...//You better apologise and delete that cheap comment of yours//.

My comments are not cheap, though, they are priceless. Also, I don't apologize for speaking truth.

@Bum...//I feel bad for every girl related to you in any manner//

Not "every". Only the easy ones.

Care to explain " easy ones " ?

The best reply to this asshole is simply no reply. Because he's not worth it.
I'm out of this discussion.

Our dearest ambassador of Islam can happily fuck himself here.

Ty.

@Vodka Lover : My finger were craving so hard to be able to write just that , Thanks you ...

//My comments are not cheap, though, they are priceless.//

A classical psychopath statement ...
No argument / discussion with your going forward.

Forgot to post the TOI article. Here's the link and short excerpt:

"In around 90% of acquittal cases, the victim turns hostile. Mostly, it turns out to be a case of a relationship gone bad. The sex is consensual but the victim claims that the consent was given on account of promise of marriage," said a senior public prosecutor on condition of anonymity.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/tougher-rape-law-leading-to-increase-in-false-cases/articleshow/30807940.cms

Woah..... :/ Can't believe the comments are actually longer than the post... Chill guys.. you are writing Essays here....

@Joseph.. Your job was to throw light on the subject....
:) you cannot force them to really "Believe"
You did your job..

@Others
I respect your arguments... though some of it are really "dumb".. 'nonsense' and really :/ "very uneducated' :D... but thats none of my buisness....

@Everyone...
So you guys kinda telling me.. you have nothing better to do better than writing essays on comment box... :/ it doesn't feel good to see you turning hostile towrds each other... :/

:)

I kind of like this guy @mukhtaar asharaaf!! He actually knows that he can't force sm1 to believe what he believes andneither does he care!! That's good!

Nice to know that my writing has "force". Afterall what can a writer wish for?! :)

R u interpreting my comment Joseph! Then coz I had no intention to mean that and neither does my comment suggest any!

If it's not in my writing, what "force" are we talking about?

I was in a terrifying awe of your reason of no head and tail...now I am star struck at your deeply disturbing ignorance of English. I said "can't force"! Un-fucking-believable I'm even replying to you.

I was replying to Mukhtar. :)

Whatever!

I have a theory: People usually get angry at two things

1. If it is a truth that irritates the guilt in you
2. Or if it is a COMPLETE lie.

Since what I wrote is not "complete" lie, I should be right in assuming that all who got angry (polled Hmmm), are actually the ones involved in illegal sex. :)

Oh ohhh... :/ :/ :/ :/ Maybe its time to call firefighters to calm down the fire!

//Robin williams (pbuh) came to to me yesterday, he said hey Upheaval...//

Just a reminder, so you may take heed:

But there is the sort of person who pays for distracting tales, intending without any knoweldge, to lead others from God's way, and to hold it up to ridicule. There will be a humiliating torment for him~~Quran [6:31]

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